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Post originalmente publicado por gotika no pórtico
Sunseth Midnight came out in the town of São Paulo (Brasil) in May 2003 aiming to explore their own wide musical versatility as well the Gothic style. Acclaimed by the specialized press as one of the precursors of the Brazilian Glam Gothic Rock - such worldwide famous style lead by names as HIM and The 69 Eyes -, the band mixes Gothic with several styles, such as Hard Rock/Glam, Doom, Industrial/Synthpop, 80's Pop and Metal.
O grupo-sensação Blood estreia-se em Portugal, já no próximo dia 2 de Dezembro Culto Club.
Este espectáculo servirá de apresentação do álbum de estreia ?Psike?, considerados pela Imprensa Musical espanhola os ?novos? Rammstein .
A primeira parte estará a cargo dos portugueses Dr.Zilch, Dr. Salazar e os Kronos.
Será uma noite de musica industrial que não deixará indiferentes os apreciadores de Rammstein, Ministry, Oomph, Laibach, Nine Inch Nails, Fear Factory , Marilyn Manson, In Extremo entre outros.
"Regardless of individual artists, neo-folk is now so riddled with Nazi undertones it must not be allowed to slip by unchallenged. (Personally, I have a strict editing policy; send me neo-folk records and they go in the bin.) Genuine artists in the neo scene can move sideways into other scenes and be seen to be blameless. The rest can rot.
Everything to do with Nazis is the complete opposite of Goth, which stands for the soppier side of romantic imagery and on its deeper side it’s the rights and dignity and intelligence of the individual. It isn’t something that follows a Master Plan.
Nazism creeps into scenes every few years, sometimes because Nazis themselves are desperately trying to sow the seeds, still unaware their perverted ideals (sic) represent an extreme of humanity; these ideals will only catch on with the barbarically stupid (ensuring its popularity within the skinhead fraternity), but also with Goths (or participants of other scenes) who think themselves ultra-cool, uber-cred, when in fact they are cowards and deserve to be ostracised.
It belongs to people who are essentially dim but think they’re clever. That is how you tell them apart. They will post on forums or even contribute to certain fanzines with low editorial principles, and always end their efforts about how wearing Nazi insignia has got them into trouble, by saying “I guess censorship still lives, eh?” or when suggesting they are only clothes, “still, it’s an interesting point, no?” as though they have sailed single-handedly into new uncharted waters of morality, making points that people need to consider with great time and consideration.
And when they do post on forums, people dread getting involved. The last time I saw it was on a forum was last year where two complete imbeciles, one in the UK and one in Australia, were trying to defend their actions. One had got into trouble for wearing the swastika in school, and claimed as their defence that they didn’t know what it was. If they’re so stupid that by 16 they don’t know what the swastika represents, there’s no hope for them anyway. Then if they didn’t know, why did they put it on? Maybe they sometimes go in wearing an old man’s underwear on their head. “No idea what this is, but it’s an interesting point, no?”
The other was a wanker in this country who had been in trouble in the streets because of his insignia and shirt. “It’s only clothes,” he protested, giving off heroic overtones about the stance he took for personal liberty.
With clothes, it’s perfectly ludicrous. You’re just play-acting your own fantasies of superiority. You think you’re being shocking and decadent by being the one brave enough to pull on a Nazi shirt and wear your little skull and crossbones badge. You think Death In June are whiter than white (oops!) and you can enter the secretive world of neo-folk without a blemish on your character because you’re an explorer, an adventurer.
You’re a total twat, and friends should evaporate to leave you to your own real self-discovery, that you have no worth in a scene, that you have a contempt for others. The association of Nazi imagery is so strong it isn’t just clothes. It is iconic of the worst hatreds and crimes imaginable, and when you pull on the Nazi clothes you’re agreeing with it.
If not, then why is it that when people mention how cool Nazi outfits look, and that the combination of black, red and white just looks great and has nothing to do with the Nazi ethos, that whenever I point out certain horse artillery units of both the British and Canadian armies used exactly the same colour schemes but without looking like neutered monsters, that nobody seems to want to dash off and buy those outfits from army surplus? Hmmmm? And how come they stop answering threads on forums when their arguments shrivel? People try to defend their sick interests by claiming they’re just clothes when they have only one association, of horror and degradation and genocide. They’re not Just Clothes.
If you wear Nazi gear, in any way, without having the guts to declare you are a Nazi, then you are worse than a Nazi. You empathise with them on an unconscious level, but you haven’t the guts to the full way. Anyone sensible loathes the very idea of these people, but at least with genuine Nazi skinheads you now where you stand. Either on their head, or well out of reach, depending on the situation.
Oh, and one other recent example tried to excuse the wearing of a full SS outfit inside Fetish clubs on the grounds that this is understood roleplay between both parties. This can be dealt with quick and easy. This shows a callous disregard for other people, because before parading themselves in public like that, for their own enjoyment, have they stopped to consider they might genuinely upset someone who lost a family member to the Nazi regime? That is nothing more than monumental arrogance (oh, just like the Nazis!)
It isn’t a big problem in the UK, that’s for sure. We have the far right growing because of the asylum issue running out of control; ours will die down again once the problem is stabilised. This sparked a rise in Germany in the late 80’s, but they’ve always had the problem. Hell, they nurtured it until it exploded, and since the war, the wounds have been constantly licked and allowed to fester once more.
In the States, skinhead gangs had the KKK to rely on as their “noble” tradition, and gleefully welcomed Nazi groups as a form of outreach groups of the brotherhood. But the real problem will always be in Germany and Scandinavia, where the Aryan myth and neo-folk draws from the pagan past and satiates the would-be Nazi with their very own primal scream therapy.
At a Treffen event (was it 2002?) some left-wingers attacked the neo-community at some performance. Ironically, the sound of baseball bats against Nazi bones was probably more rhythmical and melodious than the band involved, but when I had people contacting me to see what I thought, it was again noticeable that when I said I thought this was the perfect answer to the problem, the e-mails stopped. Clearly I was being courted as a potential spokesman! Wankers.
Nazis, particularly Himmler, were so into paganism and occult matters to prove their deluded Aryan theories they even invented a Pagan king of their own and claimed he was buried on German soil. They adopted all things Pagan; this cretinous liberation of legends still permeates the neo-folk scene which is something worth being uneasy about because of the way it has grown in size despite being, for the most part, where the singers who can’t sing go to masturbate. Where the old rightwing punks and the grubby, soulless, friendless, charmless “artistes” go to feel sophisticated.
I feel sorry for the genuine Pagan artists who have only their belief in genuine gentle Earth matters and their deities, and care nothing for the Nazi creed. They would be better off moving clearly into the folk scene. Neo-folk clearly implies it is about something else, and simply has too many dodgy associations. Even during the early 90’s there were Pagan fanzines in Germany using imagery that wouldn’t have looked out of place at a Nuremberg rally, and they dress it up by using Scandinavian touches, which is where their true Aryan visual ideal always lurked, and where you can tell if you’re dealing with a hardline Nazi because they’ll get excited mentioning Odin or oak leaves.
It is common sense to realise something disturbing lays beneath the surface when you find band with no songs, with no charisma, attracting people, and it is not acceptable to ignore the problem. If you see people wearing Nazi insignia at Goth clubs, confront them. If you sense friends who are too naïve to know better are being drawn into something you see as being dubious, tell them about it. It isn’t acceptable in the Goth scene, or any scene. Nazis would have Goths strung up, and you owe it to your self-respect not to let these things go by unchallenged. If you don’t, you’re allowing them to get away with thoughts and deeds and aspirations which are fundamentally ugly, which is probably explained quite easily.
The only reason people wanna flirt with Hitler is because nobody sensible wants to flirt with them."
Assim a temática lógica para esta reentré pós-Verão só poderia ser os 80’s, com música dos Joy Division, New Order, The Cure, The Smiths, Depeche Mode, entre outros nomes sonantes da cena 80.
A festa Retro 80’s abre com uma programação de curtas-metragens “Outlaw Shorts”, seguindo-se o Dj La Revenche de Las Pitas que prima por uma escolha musical movimentada, um desempenho profissional com loucura e non-sense à mistura, e, para fechar os nossos Dj’s fetiche, os Lisbon After Midnight que nos acompanham desde o início e já mais que provaram o seu valor nestas andanças.
O Ateneu é mais um espaço mítico da cidade de Lisboa. Edifício com mais de um século e com uma localização central (rua do Coliseu, Restauradores) reúne todas as condições necessárias para o efeito. A escola 1001 Danças, aqui sedeada, promete adicionar um pequeno extra à festa.
Resumindo, 14 de Outubro, Ateneu Comercial de Lisboa, 22h, 3€ de entrada, Retro 80’s.
Mais uma homenagem do Projecto Marginal a um movimento intemporal!
|Um excelente artigo de 29 de Setembro no "The Guardian", se bem que mais cómico do que sério, sobre o início do movimento gótico no Reino Unido e a sua comercialização até aos dias de Marilyn Manson e Rammstein. O artigo deixa também a "ameaça" de que o gótico está na moda este Outono/Inverno (o que eu também já tinha visto em certas colecções de alta costura). *arrepios*|
Goth has returned to cast a long and dark shadow over rock music this summer and autumn. In August, the NME put the Horrors on the cover - a London band influenced by the Cramps who look like five grinning death's-heads. Other new acts such as Betty Curse and Dead Disco have put out CDs, and two compilations have claimed to bring together goth's forefathers. Goth has even reached the mainstream. Victoria Beckham and Colleen McLoughlin have recently dabbled in "goth chic" - faces made up to look pale, black lacy clothes and deathly nail varnish - though it's hard to imagine the Beckham and Rooney households rocking to Betty Curse, let alone the forgotten bands of the first wave of goth. It's a dramatic revival: barely a year ago, London's goth hangout, the Devonshire Arms, was saved from closure after a nationwide appeal to goths to boost its business.
In the 90s, goths all but disappeared as dance music became the dominant youth cult. The movement went underground and fractured into cyber goth, Christian goth, industrial goth, medieval goth and the latest sub-genre, zombie goth. Around the world, however, goth hit the mainstream. Goth crossbred with electronica and heavy metal in the form of Nine Inch Nails and Marilyn Manson. While the music of Nine Inch Nails owed more to the industrial-influenced music of Throbbing Gristle and Ministry, their subect matter (murder and trauma) and style (head-to-toe black leather) were unmistakably goth. Marilyn Manson, meanwhile, fused Alien Sex Fiend's electro-goth with Alice Cooper's theatrics and went to the arena circuit.
post originalmente publicado por ebola no pórtico
Post originalmente publicado por ebola no pórtico
Por Klatuu, nos comentários:
No próximo dia 16 de Setembro a APS estará em Viseu, para participar numa festa de Metal / Goth.
A festa será realizada no bar "Day And Night", mesmo no largo da Sé de Viseu. Iniciar-se-á por volta das 22:00, no formato típico das anteriores festas Metal / Goth realizadas no mesmo local.
A APS será responsável por parte da play-list da noite, alternando entre música de conteúdo mais identificado com o Satanismo e outra apenas de preferência do DJ em causa.
Estará disponível uma selecção do material existente na Loja Online, mas o principal propósito da APS será estar fisicamente presente para discutir com todos os interessados questões sobre o Satanismo e outros assuntos relevantes, beber uns copos e divertirmo-nos.
Mais informações podem ser encontradas no seguinte link:
Post originalmente publicado por gotika no pórtico
|DIA 9 DE SETEMBRO (Sabado) 22.00h CultoClub|
Rua Cais do Ginjal, nº 5 - CACILHAS
(recebido por mailing list)
Event Description: Os Buzz são um projecto a solo Minimalista
electro-combo que envolve ocasionalmente alguns conhecidos
colaboradores dedicados ao mundo alternativo francês. Este
projecto existe desde 83 e faz parte duma época de explosão pós
punk e electro juntamente com outras bandas míticas como Taxi-
Girl, Kiem, The Neon Judgment, A Split Second, Anne Clark, The
Essence, The Mac Carthy's ou os Minimal Compact. Todos eles
pertencentes à editora Dancetaria.
OS Buzz estão de volta em 2006 com alguns originais e remixes
de David Harrow (Anne Clark, Alec Empire, James Hardway) e
Laurent Bergman (Visage), Luc Van Acker (Revolting Cocks),
Bertrand Siffert (Young Gods), David Carretta (Gigolo records),
Gary Asquith (Renegade Soundwave), Len lemeire (Implant) e DJ
Unknown (East Village radio). Tendo também a participação
especial de Veronica Vasicka (2VM / East village radio) numa
Anne Clark é talvez a maior fã desta banda.
Mais informações em http://www.cultoclub.com/.
[Mais eventos? Deixa local, morada e link nos comentários.]